DG7YBN / 432 MHz / GTV 70-17m
  Last Update Mar. 10th 2022




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Performance Data and Geometry
Pattern and VSWR
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Stacking
Matching


GTV 70-17m Yagi   with bent Driven Element



EME + SSB to mid of band Longyagi

This Yagi has very low back lobes for its length. It may serve as single antenna for Tropo or make quiet 4 Yagi EME array.
It also makes a quiet contest antenna due to its very high F/B and clean rear pattern. The bent DE (K6STI style) transforms from approx. 17 ohms to 50 ohms at feed point.



GTV 70-17m by GW4LWD


Photo Credit: GW4LWD



GTV 70-17m by 2M0ETJ


GTV 70-17m over a GTV 2-7n both built by Glyn, 2M0ETJ



GTV 70-17m by M0ABA ... this one enabled foundation license EME with 10 W

Read about it in Practical Wireless, issue Febr. 2018



2017-12-02: M6 license holder M6EBQ does EME with 10 W out into a single GTV 70-17 element Yagi

Another one for the history book: This seems the very first moon bounce contact by an M6 license holder
using but his (her) ten watt and a single Yagi.

M6 Licenses are restricted to 10 W out. We have seen an M6 EME contact before using a 4 bay of LFA Hybrid Yagis by Boban, YU7XL.
However this time a sole GTV 70-17n did the job. On the other side DL7APV, meanwhile equipped with 16 x 9 wl DJ9BV for h-pol
and 8 x GTV 70-11w for v-pol could even give a -22 dB report via WSJT giving "tnx QSO -22".

Congratulations to Dorothy, M6EBQ and Bernd, DL7APV ... and also Thomas, M0ABA for building the fine Yagi

And this QSO received at DG7YBN on single GTV 70-19m





Another first built by Thomas, M0ABA: GTV 70-17m ready for the ARRL EME Contest

Final Blade Dipole shape (on left) and adjustable experimenters blade to find the shape needed (on right), far right: simple elevation mount by M0ABA

       

Boom is 1 x 1 inch, elements 4.0 mm, insulators by 7arrays.

How Thomas, M0ABA feeds these Yagis: self engineered coax hardline stub, the base plates are sawn from kitchen plastic boards(!)
A smart idea to access plastic sheets in the right thickness in small quantites at a reasonable price.

Feasible Return Loss: > -50 dB at 432.8 MHz


And this how the Yagi performs:


Breaking News ... MX0CNS <> EME QSO's PA2V and SM7THS
PA2V (4 x 27 ele. YU1CF Yagis) received at MX0CNS

Note the fitting Doppler shift between the terrestrial and the moon bounced signal.
Note that the aricraft scattered signal appears but once and with the typical swing.

SM7THS (8 x GTV25-70m Rainmaker on open feed lines) received at MX0CNS



WSJT Screenshot QSO NC1I <> MX0CNS with GTV 70-17m and 60 W at Feed


    2017.11.03: DL7APV <> EME with single GTVV70-17m and just 10 W at feed

2017.11.04: 8 Yagi station ON4GG received with single GTVV70-17m during ARRL EME Contests 2nd leg

2017.11.04: 4 x 21 ele. Tonna station FR5DN received with single GTVV70-17m during ARRL EME Contests 2nd leg



Current distribution




Performance Data

Specs: with 8 mm elements @ 432.1 MHz

Gain vs. isotr. Rad.  17.3 dBi
Gain vs. Dipole       15.1 dBD
-3 dB E-plane         26.6 deg.
-3 dB H-plane         27.8 deg.
F/B                  -38.3 dB
F/R                  -31.5 dB
Impedance               50 ohms
Mechan. Length        3628 mm
Electr. Length        5.23 λ

Stacking Dist. h-pol.
top-to-bottom         1.51 m   or  4.95 ft
side-by-side          1.44 m   or  4.74 ft


Geometry



The Drivers diameter is 10 mm for all examples. Use EZNEC's Auto-Segmentation at 1050 MHz.

A simple symmetrising member may be made from a 3 x 1/4 Lambda line grounded at the far side with
N-flange-bushing and an aluminium plate and ferrite added as close as possible to the DE, see below.

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Geometry for 8 mm elements     



Using a large calliper gauge to control lenghts to the 10th of a millimeter is a must.




Geometry for 4 mm elements     


"Ready to saw and drill" data for mounting elements through boom with BC according SM5BSZ's BC.exe:
Note: with through Boom BC it is important to stick to the boom end offsets given below!

This table is only valid for:
Boom shape: square
Boom dim: 1 x 1 inch
Wall thickn.: 1/8 inch (3.175 mm)
Holes in boom: 6.0 mm
Offset rear: 40 mm
Offset front: 40 mm
 



Note: This includes a "Segmentation Density Correction" (SBC) of 0.90 mm plus an offset of 0.70 mm per element = 1.60 mm
for compensation of the insulators (7arrays.com ) as shown above in combination with SM5BSZ'S BC.exe values.

Note: Other insulators will need other offset, with their length being probably the most important parameter for this.
Thus I advise to cut other plastic insulators to 7 mm each to match at least the length of the pilot insulators.

Note: with through Boom BC it is important to stick to the boom end offsets given below!

Read abt. the SBC here .




Using a large calliper gauge to control lenghts to the 10th of a millimeter is a must.








Pattern and VSWR Plots

Elevation and Azimuth plot at 432.1 MHz

 


SWR and Return Loss plots - simulated with 4nec2










Downloads

EZNEC file of this Yagi with 4 mm elements 

EZNEC file of this Yagi with 8 mm elements 










Stacking

As on the 432 MHz Band the Y-factor = T_earth / T_sky is that high I see little chances in
bettering an array's RX performance by using "Over Stacking" distances. However, depending
the level of local QRM it might be worthwhile to try less distance, especially in H-plane.



Stacking Dist.    DL6WU Formula
H-plane               1.44 m
E-plane               1.51 m

Elevation and azimuth plot and data of 4 Yagi bay using DL6WU stacking distances

  


AGTC_lite screenshot of this Yagi with 8 mm elements


Gain vs. isotr. Rad.  23.20 dBi
Gain vs. Dipole       21.05 dBD
F/B                   33.6 dB
F/R                   32.8 dB
T_ant                 28.5 K*
G/T                   8.65 dB*
Theoretical numbers, no phasing line losses
nor imperfections caused by H-frame included
*) T_sky = 20 K, T_earth = 350 K as in VE7BQH G/T table









Symmetrising 50 to 50 ohms Feedline to 432 MHz Bent DE

The principle is similar to the 1/4 Lambda coax. Adding 2 x 1/4 Lambda or a half wave line does not change anything but allows
to form a gentle bow below the boom or until behind the Reflector. Follow practical construction hints on "Building a Yagi" page.

  Attenzione!     Take care when lengthening the coax, measure the right length instead of refering to given v-factors only.
                                      A good choice may be the diam. 5 mm PTFE coax RG-142 B/U: real resonate length (432.2 Mhz as 3/4 Lambda) shield-shield is around 348 mm


  Find more information on Phasing & Matching Lines page






73, Hartmut, DG7YBN


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