DG7YBN / 432 MHz / GTV 70-25m
  Last Update June 09th 2023




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Performance Data and Geometry
Pattern and VSWR
Download as File
This Yagi with bent Folded Dipole
Stacking
Matching


GTV 70-25m Yagi   with bent Driven Element

EME + SSB band version

This Yagi has very low back lobes for its length. It may serve as single antenna for Tropo or even EME.
A 4 Yagi bay will make an excellent EME array. It also makes a quiet contest antenna due to its high F/B.
The bent DE (K6STI style) transforms from approx. 17 ohms to 50 ohms at feed point.


8 x GTV 70-25m 'The Rainmaker' built by ZS6JON for ZS4TX

 


Since 26th of December 2022 we have a new 432 MHz DX World Record with an array of GTV 70-25m Yagis:

Band   Call 1    Loc 1     Call 2   Loc 2      Mode    Prop.  Date[d-m-y]  QRB[km]
432    ZS4TX     KG30BX    NH6Y     BL10TS     Q65B    EME    2022-12-26   19054
see www.ok2kkw.com/dxrecords.htm

Screenshots of the QSO on NH6Y side:

Note that elevation at the end of the QSO was already zero at NH6Y.
His last CQ at ZS4TX was still decoded at almost -1 degree of Moon elevation at NH6Y.
NH6Y has a 'negative horizon' to the West and can see the ocean clearly from his station

• NH6Y Station Info:
Tom operated 2 x 25 hpol K1FO Yagis, 600 W Tajfun 1000 brick, Q5 transverter and WD5ADO LNA.


Screenshots of the QSO on ZS4TX side:



• ZS4TX Station Info:
Bernie operated this array, Icom IC-910H, 750 W out, Microham Digi Keyer II, LNAs built by ZS6JON.





8 x GTV 70-25m built by Sverker, SM7THS

With this array and modest P_out SM7THS made a solid 3rd place in the ARRL 2017 EME Contest. Gratis Sverker!


These Yagis are built on 20 x 20 mm boom with 4 mm elements. The blade dipole shape is close to the drawing
on the GTV 70-19 website but made from t = 1 mm which seems to require a little more bending angle.

SM7THS reports own echos from the moon at -6.3 dB using 400 W out with this array of 8 Yagis.
And reading DG7YBN with single GTV 70-19 and 270 W out off the moon at -23 dB :-). On 2nd of Dec.2017
his blog reads good propagations, own echos -3.5 dB, HB9Q rxed at -1 dB, an SSB QSO with DF3RU and
a single Yagi 250 W station worked.

2 x GTV 70-25m built by Sverker, SM7THS

SM7THS used the 2 GTVs, 600W and LNA with an NF of approx. 0.34dB.
Read his report from 2016 Oct. ARRL 1st leg EME contest with that equipment:

"During the contest I worked in total 31 QSO's and a few stations with similar setups like KA1GT and
LU8ENU. Outside the contest the smallest station worked so far was SM7GVF with a single yagi and 1KW
Hrd my own echoes at strongest -12.6 dB in JT echo mode."



GTV 70-25m h-pol. with added GTV 70-14m v-pol. "The Rainmaker" built by Sverker, SM7THS

Test setup for finding out if both planes are working as simulated.



Take a look at Sverkers QRZ.com
and Sverkers blog abt. building 8 x GTV 70-25 and GTV 70-14 ...

4 x GTV 70-25m built by Wolf, DF7KB built on 25 x 25 mm booms using 4 mm elements






Current distribution


GTV 70-25m "The Rainmaker" by John, ZS6JON

This GTV70-25m is built with 4.76 mm elements through a 25 x 25 mm boom
and has a GTV70-14m in v-plane installed in its front part

and Return Loss plotted with calibrated coax on an Anritsu MS2000 VNA



And Jukka at OH3TR, Tampere University of Technology / Tampereen tekkarien radiokerho
fed with 1/2 inch coax and solid symmetrising stub.

and Smith Chart plotted with Agilent / HP 8753 VNA



GTV 70-25m at PA2CV, Alex

Below, on left: Build completed and ready to hit the moon 2016-10-15, click on image to view in large
And 2016-10-16 on right: First test as EME novice with 100 W out, instantly an almost QSO with PI9CAM due to much drift in trx.

   


Slideshow: Ingenious bent dipole for the GTV 70-25m by Alex, PA2CV. 8 mm soft copper tube with brass screws in the tips





Performance Data

Gain vs. isotr. Rad.  18.9 dBi (4 mm elements and low segmentation)
Gain vs. Dipole       16.8 dBD
-3 dB E-plane         22.2 deg.
-3 dB H-plane         22.8 deg.
F/B                  -36.9 dB
F/R                  -34.0 dB
Impedance               50 ohms
Mechan. Length        5820 mm
Electr. Length        8.39 λ

Stacking Dist. h-pol.
top-to-bottom         1.76 m
side-by-side          1.80 m




Geometry

EZNEC wire table for Ø 4 mm elements







Geometry for thin elements through boom     


Table 1: GTV 70-25m, 4 mm elements through a 20 x 20 mm boom:



"Ready to saw and drill" data for mounting elements through boom with BC according SM5BSZ's BC.exe:
Note: with through Boom BC it is important to stick to the boom end offsets given below!

This table is only valid for:
Boom shape: square
Boom dim: 20 x 20 mm
Wall thickn.: 2.0 mm
Holes in boom: 6.0 mm
Offset rear: 30 mm
Offset front: 30 mm
 


Insulators by 7arrays.com as shown above in combination with SM5BSZ'S BC.exe values.



Using a large calliper gauge to control lenghts to the 10th of a millimeter is a must.




Table 2: GTV 70-25m, 4 mm elements through a 25 x 25 mm boom:



"Ready to saw and drill" data for mounting elements through boom with BC according SM5BSZ's BC.exe:
Note: with through Boom BC it is important to stick to the boom end offsets given below!

This table is only valid for:
Boom shape: square
Boom dim: 25 x 25 mm
Wall thickn.: 2.0 mm
Holes in boom: 6.0 mm
Offset rear: 40 mm
Offset front: 40 mm
 


Insulators by 7arrays.com as shown above in combination with SM5BSZ'S BC.exe values.



Using a large calliper gauge to control lenghts to the 10th of a millimeter is a must.




Table 3: GTV 70-25m, 3/16 inch elements through boom:



"Ready to saw and drill" data for mounting elements through boom with BC according SM5BSZ's BC.exe:
Note: with through Boom BC it is important to stick to the boom end offsets given below!

This table is only valid for:
Boom shape: square
Boom dim: 25 x 25 mm
Wall thickn.: 1.6 mm
Holes in boom: 7.9 mm
Offset rear: 40 mm
Offset front: 40 mm
SBC is: 1.37 mm plus 0.7 mm for compensation for 432 MHz and insulator of length 7 mm

    <=   NEC Geometry 3/16 inch ele. insulated through boom incl. SM5BSZ BC.exe Correction



Using a large calliper gauge to control lenghts to the 10th of a millimeter is a must.



Table 4: GTV 70-25m, 8 mm elements semi insulated on boom with standard holders:


    <=   NEC Geometry 8 mm ele. semi insulated on boom incl. DG7YBN BC and an SBC of 1.37 mm

• On boom 20 x 20 mm with 8 mm elements




• On boom 25 x 25 mm with 6 mm elements




The Drivers diameter is 10 mm for all examples. Use EZNEC's Auto-Segmentation at 1050 MHz.

A simple symmetrising member may be made from a 3 x 1/4 Lambda line grounded at the far side with
N-flange-bushing and an aluminium plate and ferrite added as close as possible to the DE, see below.

Sketch of Bent Dipole










Pattern and VSWR Plots

Elevation and Azimuth plot at 432.1 MHz

 


SWR and Return Loss plots - simulated with 4nec2


Return Loss plot - PA2CV's build: 430.0 to 435.0 MHz (tnx Alex!)










Downloads

EZNEC file of this Yagi with 4 mm elements  

EZNEC file of this Yagi with 3/16 inch elements  

EZNEC file of this Yagi with 8 mm elements  











GTV 70-25m with Folded Dipole


The straight split bent dipole can be replaced with a bent folded dipole like in any non-bent Yagi design.
In doing so the transformation ratio of 1:4 remains. The bent folded dipole versions impedance is 200 ohms.

The folded dipole itself is of Ø 6 mm; I recommend an 'elements through boom' built.
So that the folded dipole is centered in the element plane for best symmetry in the elevation pattern.

Geometry of the Folded Dipole

In the model we use the center of the tube, regardless of its actual diameter.
With this NEC model height is 44 mm, span width is 308 mm. Adding the real diameter of 6 mm we end up with

inner height = 38 mm, outer span width = 314 mm, see sketch



Note     Folded Dipole mounting in plastic brackets compensation

Whatever plastic block is used to suspend or mount the dipoles wires will need to be compensated
by adding ~ 0.1 mm per millimeter of wire running in plastic. If you attach a 20 mm plastic block on top
of the boom to lead the dipoles upper wire a length of 2.0 mm / 2 = 1.0 mm needs to be added to the dipoles
span width. Assumed it runs free of contact to plastic on the down side.
We use factor 1/2 in a folded dipole then since it is a full wave loop.

Same applies to any BC if the wires run very close (~ < 3 mm) to the boom.

SWR and Return Loss plots - simulated with 4nec2









Stacking

As on the 432 MHz Band the Y-factor = T_earth / T_sky is that high I see little chances in
bettering an array's RX performance by using "Over Stacking" distances. However, depending
the level of local QRM it might be worthwhile to try less distance, especially in H-plane.



Stacking Dist.    DL6WU Formula
top-to-bottom         1.76 m
side-by-side          1.80 m

Azimuth plot and data of 4 Yagi bay using DL6WU stacking distances


Gain vs. isotr. Rad.  24.84 dBi
Gain vs. Dipole       22.69 dBD

T_ant                 26.4 K*
G/T                  10.63 dB*

Theoretical numbers, no phasing line losses
nor imperfections caused by H-frame included
*) T_sky = 20 K, T_earth = 350 K as in VE7BQH G/T table



Elevation plot and data of 6 Yagi bay using DL6WU stacking distances

Gain vs. isotr. Rad.  26.58 dBi
Gain vs. Dipole       24.43 dBD

T_ant                 26.1 K*
G/T                  12.42 dB*

Theoretical numbers, no phasing line losses
nor imperfections caused by H-frame included
*) T_sky = 20 K, T_earth = 350 K as in VE7BQH G/T table










Symmetrising 50 to 50 ohms Feedline to 432 MHz Bent DE

The principle is similar to the 1/4 Lambda coax. Adding 2 x 1/4 Lambda or a half wave line does not change anything but allows
to form a gentle bow below the boom or until behind the Reflector. Follow practical construction hints on "Building a Yagi" page.

  Attenzione!     Take care when lengthening the coax, measure the right length instead of refering to given v-factors only.
                                      A good choice may be the diam. 5 mm PTFE coax RG-142 B/U: real resonate length (432.2 Mhz as 3/4 Lambda) shield-shield is around 348 mm


  Find more information on Phasing & Matching Lines page






73, Hartmut, DG7YBN


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